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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Economics needs a scientific revolution&#8221; by Victor Aguilar</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=83&#038;cpage=1#comment-9984</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Aguilar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 04:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My post got cut off for some reason.  It continues:</p>
<p><b>A Non-Mathematical Explanation of the Axioms:</b> <a href="http://www.axiomaticeconomics.com/axioms.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.axiomaticeconomics.com/axioms.php</a></p>
<p>This paper specifically addresses the applicability of my axioms, Peter.</p>
<p><b>Socrates and Hume at Billiards:</b> <a href="http://www.axiomaticeconomics.com/socrates.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.axiomaticeconomics.com/socrates.php</a></p>
<p>This latter paper is a simulated dialogue between Socrates and David Hume over a game of billiards in heaven. They are visited by a swami and a physicist, both of whom counsel Socrates on where his billiard ball will go after he hits it with his cue ball. Then, Socrates and Hume contrast these two quotations:</p>
<p><b>David Hume:</b> &#8220;When I see, for instance, a billiard ball moving in a straight line toward another,&#8230; may I not conceive that a hundred different events might as well follow from that cause?&#8230; All these suppositions are consistent and conceivable. Why then should we give preference to one which is no more consistent or conceivable than the rest?&#8221;</p>
<p><b>Cristobal Young:</b> &#8220;Milton Friedman, torchbearer for the ‘free market’, insisted that the realism of background assumptions is not important. ‘In general, the more significant the theory, the more unrealistic the assumptions’. Good theory may well make use of ‘wildly inaccurate’ assumptions, and proceed ‘as if’ the assumptions held true. The purpose of theory is to generate testable implications.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here I am quoting Cristobal Young’s review of Robert Nelson’s book, <i>Economics as Religion</i>, which Bouchard mentions in his paper.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Economics needs a scientific revolution&#8221; by Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=83&#038;cpage=1#comment-9937</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Victor --

Your website compares your model to that axiomatic treatment of probability articulated by Andrei Kolmogorov.  That&#039;s interesting, not least because Kolmogorov&#039;s axioms mean his theory is not validly applicable to large swathes of human experience -- eg, most practical reasoning involving uncertainty. 

Are you saying that your theory, likewise, is limited in application?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Victor &#8211;</p>
<p>Your website compares your model to that axiomatic treatment of probability articulated by Andrei Kolmogorov.  That&#8217;s interesting, not least because Kolmogorov&#8217;s axioms mean his theory is not validly applicable to large swathes of human experience &#8212; eg, most practical reasoning involving uncertainty. </p>
<p>Are you saying that your theory, likewise, is limited in application?</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Economics needs a scientific revolution&#8221; by Victor Aguilar</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=83&#038;cpage=1#comment-9919</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Aguilar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My assumptions are three:

1) One&#039;s value scale is totally (linearly) ordered:

i) Transitive; p ? q and q ? r imply p ? r

ii) Reflexive; p ? p

iii) Anti-Symmetric; p ? q and q ? p imply p = q

iv) Total; p ? q or q ? p

2) Marginal (diminishing) utility, u(s), is such that:

i) It is independent of first-unit demand.

ii) It is negative monotonic; that is, u&#039;(s) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My assumptions are three:</p>
<p>1) One&#8217;s value scale is totally (linearly) ordered:</p>
<p>i) Transitive; p ? q and q ? r imply p ? r</p>
<p>ii) Reflexive; p ? p</p>
<p>iii) Anti-Symmetric; p ? q and q ? p imply p = q</p>
<p>iv) Total; p ? q or q ? p</p>
<p>2) Marginal (diminishing) utility, u(s), is such that:</p>
<p>i) It is independent of first-unit demand.</p>
<p>ii) It is negative monotonic; that is, u&#8217;(s)</p>
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		<title>Comment on No, no, no by Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=88&#038;cpage=1#comment-9599</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought when I read the post title was:  at last on MBC, we have a post about Dawn Penn and Jamaican soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought when I read the post title was:  at last on MBC, we have a post about Dawn Penn and Jamaican soul.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AI to the rescue? by Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=84&#038;cpage=1#comment-8706</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a somewhat contrary view, read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/rise-of-the-machines/2008/10/20/1224351155344.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; about the fear of being at the mercy of machines.   Yet modern, western society has been at the mercy of machines since at least the introduction of underground transport, city-wide sewerage and electricity networks in the late 19th century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a somewhat contrary view, read <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/biztech/rise-of-the-machines/2008/10/20/1224351155344.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> about the fear of being at the mercy of machines.   Yet modern, western society has been at the mercy of machines since at least the introduction of underground transport, city-wide sewerage and electricity networks in the late 19th century.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Economics needs a scientific revolution&#8221; by Bouchaud</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=83&#038;cpage=1#comment-8694</link>
		<dc:creator>Bouchaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 16:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are lots of models in statistical mechanics which can accomodate intelligent agents, at least some form of primitive form of intelligence which is often enough to understand what people do in practice. Of course, models are simplified and schematic, but the story they tell are often extremely deep and insightful. In particular the appearance of generic instabilities - unexpectedly large consequences of small perturbations. I do not think I am over-optimistic in promoting such a framework. In any case, the point here is to make progress, not necessarily to solve all the problems!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of models in statistical mechanics which can accomodate intelligent agents, at least some form of primitive form of intelligence which is often enough to understand what people do in practice. Of course, models are simplified and schematic, but the story they tell are often extremely deep and insightful. In particular the appearance of generic instabilities &#8211; unexpectedly large consequences of small perturbations. I do not think I am over-optimistic in promoting such a framework. In any case, the point here is to make progress, not necessarily to solve all the problems!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Emperor&#8217;s new credit default swaps by Shaun Beale</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=82&#038;cpage=1#comment-8679</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Beale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid people, If they knew it was gonna come, why didnt they stop it ey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid people, If they knew it was gonna come, why didnt they stop it ey?</p>
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		<title>Comment on To regulate, or not to regulate by Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=80&#038;cpage=1#comment-8629</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Greenspan was (and maybe still is) a devoted follower of Ayn Rand.  As with Milton Friedman, I am always surprised how such fervent believers in free enterprise never seem to have difficulty accepting jobs paid by Government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Greenspan was (and maybe still is) a devoted follower of Ayn Rand.  As with Milton Friedman, I am always surprised how such fervent believers in free enterprise never seem to have difficulty accepting jobs paid by Government.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Open outcry hand signals by Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=55&#038;cpage=1#comment-8020</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to read the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to read the article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The epidemiology of stock markets by Iain</title>
		<link>http://www.marketbasedcontrol.com/blog/index.php/?p=54&#038;cpage=1#comment-7638</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting point ther. As is our lives are already so controlled and recorded and regulated by people and organisations fearing that they are going to lose the edge they percieve they have that they will try anything to keep it and control those that are in a position to possibly influence it. Livestock is one thing(meat) and people are another(money). Let the line be drawn before it gets to money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting point ther. As is our lives are already so controlled and recorded and regulated by people and organisations fearing that they are going to lose the edge they percieve they have that they will try anything to keep it and control those that are in a position to possibly influence it. Livestock is one thing(meat) and people are another(money). Let the line be drawn before it gets to money.</p>
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